tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post5567003013473966994..comments2024-03-28T03:23:34.498-05:00Comments on Save Versus<br> All Wands: OD&D Attack Progressions Compared (Originals and Clones), Part IOakes Spaldinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post-2794866327398132152014-11-27T11:28:20.873-06:002014-11-27T11:28:20.873-06:00I didn't look at Holmes or his clones because ...I didn't look at Holmes or his clones because the numbers track 0e and of course they only list the first three levels, so there is no progression.Oakes Spaldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08078500142758654392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post-73219559074288449382014-11-27T09:17:30.534-06:002014-11-27T09:17:30.534-06:00Oh, you missed a Holmes clone, there. ;-)Oh, you missed a Holmes clone, there. ;-)Vile Travellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431855585620506995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post-67577126945439546962014-09-16T08:06:39.809-05:002014-09-16T08:06:39.809-05:00Thanks. Very enlightening and now understandable ...Thanks. Very enlightening and now understandable in light of it.Raul De La Garza IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13605983985028555812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post-82525077550444939802014-09-15T23:26:47.084-05:002014-09-15T23:26:47.084-05:00The hidden secret here is: Use the best weapon and...The hidden secret here is: Use the best weapon and armour available to your class.Darcy Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02385198563203931754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post-63000869243672229752014-09-15T21:14:25.908-05:002014-09-15T21:14:25.908-05:00Holmes only covers levels 1-3, and is the same as ...Holmes only covers levels 1-3, and is the same as OD&D for those levels - all classes need a 17 to hit AC 2. The most notable addition to Holmes over OD&D is a new line for "Normal Man", who needs an 18 for AC 2 (that is, attacks at -1 as compared to L1-3s).Zenopus Archiveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14069501995927451558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post-39450763160766970452014-09-15T20:28:20.341-05:002014-09-15T20:28:20.341-05:00I learned years ago that even within similar D&...I learned years ago that even within similar D&D rule-sets, there are a lot of small differences within the charts and tables, but you only notice them when you jump form one system to the other. And even still, you'll most likely stumble upon them as you are running the game.<br /><br />For example, there are slight changes in the saving throws between the Basic and Expert sets, and the Companion and Masters sets make drastic changes to them, so by Rules Cyclopedia, they retroactively change the whole array! All over, this applies to To-Hits, Saving Throws, Spells/day, etc., et al.!<br /><br />Also, drafting a system that adjusts the "EXP Needed" based on class capability is a mess when its just covering one rule set -- you'll get no conformity between the different rule sets, so you'll have to treat each system with their own formula, and their would still be some compatibility issues!<br /><br />It would be nice to have a master list of all the charts and tables between all the classic editions and the (retro/near-)clones that spawned from them, for the sake of conversions.Malcadonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03111796978336546944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post-8161323412174568952014-09-15T10:52:36.614-05:002014-09-15T10:52:36.614-05:00Excellent use of old-school (Moldvay I think) tabl...Excellent use of old-school (Moldvay I think) table art.n8mcdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03595908467212326227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6560143148581212281.post-20749420857583031792014-09-15T08:41:41.941-05:002014-09-15T08:41:41.941-05:00Fascinating. I noticed that you did not use the H...Fascinating. I noticed that you did not use the Holmes version in your comparisons. Was this on purpose? It is not a large matter just an observation.Raul De La Garza IIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13605983985028555812noreply@blogger.com